| [ Stanford ] in KIDS 글 쓴 이(By): jwshin (아뿔사) 날 짜 (Date): 1999년 4월 30일 금요일 오후 12시 56분 30초 제 목(Title): Re: phd와 ms 차이 Well, the same old question ;) Since I am currently an EE Ph.D candidate, my words apply to only EE. I will mention a little about CS, but don't expect too much. ;) Your information is basically true. Stanford admits about 200 EE graduate students a year, among whom only 20~30 are Ph.D students. Well, I would say it is much easier to be admitted as a MS candidate. You don't need a great GRE, TOEFL score. What matters is GPA. If your GPA is above 3.7/4.0, then there is a 50/50 chance. For Ph.D, the admission criterion seem to be a little different. If you have a research experience, it would be a big plus. Well, GPA still matters, though.(Master degree is needed to be qualified for) About the Ph.D quals, there are lots of rumors. I received an email, which asks."Is it true that only 10% of examinee pass the Quals?" That's not true. If you are admitted as a MS candidate and you want to be a Ph.D candidate, then you should take this exam. There are two chances for each person and the exam is given once a year, usually middle of January. At each exam, a little less than 50% of applicants(45%?) are allowed in Ph.D program. If you've ever heard that "Stanford EE Quals are 'HELL'", then it means the number - a little less then 50%, which means more than half of the applicants fails!!! However, you have two chances, therefore I would say each one has about 65~70% chance of passing quals. Well, this number doesn't look that bad, does it? I heard that the rate of the other schools are around 80%, which is within only 10~15%!!! What really makes Stanford EE quals crazy is not the number, but the way they ask the questions. IT IS THE MOST CRAZY EXPERIENCE IN MY LIFE, PERIOD!!! I have never seen anything like that. You are assigned 10 professor, and you go to each one's room, and get in. Then,he/she starts to ask questions, and you have to solve them in 10 minutes, of course, in "English." After that, you go to another room, and repeat the same procedure. Once you visit 10 rooms, and are tortured enough, then the exam is over. It happens during A DAY. Some professors are not very nice, so you can be easily frustrated. Even though you know how to solve it, you might not get a good score if you don't PRESENT on the whiteboard(or paper) very well. The other thing that makes the qual difficult is the level of the student. There are tons of exceptionally smart guys, so it is an extremely competitive situation, although there are a few stupid students like me. ^_^(Still, most of the Korean students here are doing very well.) All this kind of things make Stanford EE quals being notorious for. CS has a little different story. CS has a separate degree system, so even though you are a MS candidate in Stanford, you have to APPLY AGAIN to be considered as a Ph.D student. Also, the Ph.D acceptance rate is extremely low, there has been ONLY ONE student from Korea, who got admitted as a Ph.D candidate for the recent 5 years. Well, you can imagine how difficult it is. If you want to know more about what I've said above, please check http://www-ee.stanford.edu http://www-cs.stanford.edu hope this helps A-Ppul-SSa 새파랗게 젊다는게 한밑천인데, 째째하게 굴지 말고 가슴을 쫘~악 펴라~ - 아뿔사 |